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thistles,
the U Printer FM podcast,
where each week we bring you the strategies and resources you need to build market and monetize a profitable future.
Proof businesses around your knowledge and expertise tastes on.
Now here's your host international business mentor and best selling author Chris Ducker.
No.
Yes,
Hello there,
my friends and welcome to episode number 397 of the U Pinar FM podcast.
Be doing very,
very well,
no matter where you are,
no matter what you're doing is I often say,
is I kick off these episodes?
I appreciate your tuning in.
You could be listening to anyone right now listening to me on very soon.
From now on,
I'm amazing guest for You got a great show lined up.
But before we get into that,
I just want savory quick thank you to each and every single one of you have reviewed.
The show recently on iTunes has been a lot of you sending him reviews.
And yes,
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So if you want to go ahead and reviewed and head over to chris tucker dot com,
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You know,
smoke signals,
your big boys and girls.
You'll be able to figure it out.
Get me a copy of the review and I'll get you something special in your inbox because I'm nice like that.
Today I sit down to speak with my very good friend that NEEN James,
the author of Attention Pays and so much more goodness that she brings into the world.
Nina has actually being on the show before,
but I thought I'd bring her wrong to talk all about how she has handled everything that's happened this year.
Ah,
yes,
2020 The year that we wish never happens,
but nonetheless it is still going on.
And,
as you know,
a four time very well paid keynote speaker she's used to traveling around the world and doing what she does on stage is like with real like humans in the audience.
But now things are obviously switched up a little bit,
and we've got to kind of figure out exactly what that looks like.
So it gives me great pleasure to welcome my very,
very good friend back to you Pinot FM show.
It's too beautiful.
Name?
James.
How are you,
darling?
It ain't good.
Doesn't treat to be back with your fabulous listeners.
And I must say,
I never get bored of hearing you say good bye,
gorgeous.
Never gonna record.
That is like a little Hello.
So every day you could be like,
when you wake up in the money.
We like your alarm getting glitches.
Well,
we joked a little bit about it before we hit record.
And I said,
You know,
I'm gonna make it my text tone or something like that in my file.
So the very weird kind of year you and I have bean in very solid contact with each other over the last,
you know,
34 months when this has been going on.
What's being the biggest change for you as a four time performer,
you know,
I mean,
this is your business model.
This is what you've done.
You've traveled the world key noting very,
very large events.
What's being the biggest change for you personally throughout all this?
Imagine being in the extra vit who gets energized by people,
whether it's a bull room or a boardroom,
and all of a sudden you like Now you get Teoh play with people behind a camera in your little home in Tampa,
Florida.
So if it needs the biggest adjustment waas that I was delivering to clients what they needed But it wasn't necessarily what I wanted.
And so I think,
making that shift that,
you know,
we used the wood pivotal until the time.
And I think Pivot is to me,
that means,
like a focal point,
like your focus of your attention.
And I had to prove it personally and professionally.
And so for me,
the biggest adjustment.
Waas.
I'm miss hugging people.
I miss signing him those books.
I'm mishearing after a speech.
What I said that they were able to implement I missed the self is I missed so much about the physicality of what we do.
There is no amount of emotional responses on zoom or chat activity or thumbs up with high fines and whatever system people using whether it Zuma teams that will never replace.
For me,
that's satisfactory.
Looking in someone's eyes and actually being up,
give him a cuddle and say I hear you,
I see you.
I appreciate you.
That was biggest.
Yeah,
for me.
You know,
I've often said that,
You know,
I like to build relationships with one of the three pages handshakes,
high fives or hugs.
So you may very,
very similar in that regard.
Same,
honey.
No,
you just said it eloquently.
Well,
okay,
but let's get serious for a minute,
then,
because I mean your you know,
your your bikini with one thing that you get,
you know,
asked to come and perform over and over and over again is based on also your best selling book under the same title of attention pays.
It's a great book for you guys tuning in.
Actually,
I believe it was one of my top five books off 2021.
I did a YouTube video on this not so long ago.
I was so excited when you put me in that list with boulders.
Rocks does.
There you go.
You see,
on the CAFTA,
But like,
how have you from a business perspective?
And maybe we'll go back to the personal stuff in a minute because I'm curious,
because you also had a very big move about 18 months or so ago from over the New York Philly area to where you are now in Florida.
But let's come back to that in a bit like how have you carried on getting attention?
Or actually,
let me rephrase that.
So how have you carried on earning attention?
Getting attention,
keeping attention throughout all of this cause that's your jam like that's what you teach other people to do it.
So I'm curious to know how you been doing it yourself.
I'm not 11th.
I stepped off stage and I just said to Comcast,
which is one of the world's largest cable operators,
and I was heading to the airport and Philadelphia Airport,
which is where they had offices based,
was a ghost town.
And remember looking around,
I was sitting at the wine bar sipping champagne,
which probably shocks you.
And so I was sitting there having a champagne,
and I was thinking to myself because the president was about to announce something major.
And just before he jumped on the plane,
I watched the press conference,
and I remember the plane ride home first,
and I thought to myself,
My entire world is about to take.
I didn't know what that meant at the time.
And then I woke up in the middle of the night like,
I remember this so clearly and remember waking up and thinking I have to talk to every client to my morning.
And so that next day I got on the phone and I contacted everyone.
And the the United States,
where I live was just adding to realize that maybe something was significant was happening.
Every client,
my question was this.
What do you need?
How can I help?
And so,
as a result of I called on my bureau apartness,
I called all my clientele.
I do a lot of work with C suite.
So,
you know,
direct access texting.
I recorded video messages for some of my CEO,
see if Emma Simoes and said whatever you need,
I'm here.
And so what I chose to do with my attention with standard service of my client.
Whatever you need,
let me help you.
And so what?
That man waas Well,
how that translated,
Kris,
was my attention shifted from however my products and services.
So this client to just what are they made?
Like what's in my toolkit?
What's in my resource?
How can I help them with the decisions they have to make.
The conversations they need to have a team of is now that ended up translating Waas.
I didn't an enormous amount of free everything.
I was a guest Full happy hours.
A surprise guest.
I waas jumping in team meetings.
I was during strategy sessions I was spending tender toe about today on Zoom and all it was about this Waas his Just tell me lady it and let's work out how to help you.
And so my attention was very shifted and what I did Waas I stopped everything on social media that maybe I thought like there was a lot of I noticed a lot of people in my industry had pre she age old things that would dropping that made them look very ton death.
So I said to my ago,
who was helping with social media?
No posts Unless I write them and I signed them off,
nothing goes out.
So what I had to do was shift the attention that I was also bringing to my brand to so only messaging Waas what do you need?
We're in this together.
How can I help you and that shift.
I think there wasn't money changing hands.
Let's be super clear about this is old.
I had gone from income to nothing.
That's how I shifted my attention.
Now,
what I love about this is that you jumped on it so quickly.
And when this all kind of kicked off and for you guys to know,
then we'll put a link to the YouTube video that I'm talking about here on the show notes over it.
You pinot dot com forward slash 397 If you're not a subscriber,
the channel the Hello.
You know what to do when you visit,
right?
But when when this all kind of kicked off,
I recorded the video about a bear in mind like I didn't.
I was.
I'm an entrepreneur,
like I have business.
So I was still figuring this stuff out as well.
But there is one thing that I knew I needed to do above and beyond everything else from my clientele.
And that was I needed to be proactive and not reactive in it.
And so Teoh here you do the exact same thing honestly,
quicker than I did.
It wanted to be honest,
like an on it like that was I mean,
that it doesn't surprise me,
Numb in the way I know you.
We've been friends for a long time now,
but the fact is that is exactly what you needed to do by sending out all those messages.
All those video messages as well,
like that is exactly what you need to do.
What was the reaction from clients?
Title overwhelm and what was interesting?
Waas Some clients were like,
I don't really know kind of what you're talking about because they was still in denial through to helping people decide whether they're going to close down a manufacturing plant in the world.
Do you know what I'm saying?
Like so people will like have I make a decision?
And so I was fascinated with and still him,
frankly,
in the hot of everything that's going on.
But what was really interesting?
Waas how much they appreciated it,
right?
So that was an interesting thing.
And also to because of the kind of clientele I have and the seniority of the people that I'm talking to,
they don't have someone objective that they can really have honest conversations with because they're answering to a board and they have an executive team.
So if you think about the COC and most of those,
that kind of person that I tell is they have to make some financial decisions and some emotional decisions,
and they feel like they're doing it in and isolation because it's impacting the lives off so many people.
And so I was also astounded at the level of vulnerability that people had and that I think has come because I have always stood in service of my clients are very deep relationships with my clients.
But it was so because I made it safe and I think I was.
There was no agenda.
It was How do I save you?
How do I help you?
That's the key to attention,
right?
Cause attentions all of that connection.
And it's not about made Shane.
Oh,
I have this brought up to combine this book you should purchase for everyone.
That stuff makes me moment.
I was watching people in our industry horrified,
And yes,
I was being super judgy,
But I was like,
How could you possibly let that post?
How can you be putting that on Facebook happen?
E.
I was astounded behavior,
some of herself shocking.
I remember seeing and I think that I think I talked about this on a recent episode is an example of what not to do the market business throughout all of this,
I actually saw an advert on Facebook for a company.
I can't remember what the company wants now,
but it said Cove in 19 Special Offer up Just like What are you doing,
you moron IQ?
It's literally dramatise now,
believe me,
I had to change some things.
We definitely elevated out environment.
So I did upgrade little things.
My webcam,
the lighting I had.
You know,
I put like a much study of flip shot in my little home studio because I'm using it with clients in the boat,
a fancy camera that I'm clueless on how to use,
like we definitely had to elevate our environment for the current situation to deliver us.
And so I think one of the things that we have had to think about two was,
now that the experience is different,
I had to think about full of the person who's only at the end of this room.
Cole of the Team Cole.
How do we elevate it for them,
and that includes little things like lighting and all that kind of stuff.
But what I've noticed,
Chris,
that's being really interesting is yeah,
because now we're in people's homes,
the catwalks across the camera for people that kids want Iran,
you know,
where I used to,
kind of keep it together,
look cute on video.
I have one particular climate who needs to see me sometimes at,
like,
6 37 in the morning because of the responsibilities that she has.
And I say that now I'm like,
Oh,
honey,
I'll be a workout gear like we need to have an understanding that this ham make up.
This doesn't happen on So So we've had to elevate and have a new agreements of people.
But I feel like the conversations we're having now a seminal intimate Vimal,
honest people being more authentic because we can literally see into your home.
Yeah,
yeah.
Um,
that's really interesting,
because part of what we do here at Uber knows we have our are you Panera incubator coaching program,
which many of the people shooting them will know about.
And,
you know,
this is fundamentally being a in person coaching program.
But now,
obviously,
we've had to take it online.
And one of the real highlights.
We've done two of our quarterly masterminds now via zoom for everybody.
One of the big highlights actually is when one of the kids,
before coming to my home office but completely random request of some variety like Cassie came in not so long ago.
And she was like,
Daddy,
I need to pee.
She wanted me to take it to the toilet,
like,
you know,
Andi,
I think honestly,
that that's the P two p thing that people to people connection that I talk about all the time.
People are totally into that.
Now they're more open,
I think.
Have you found that they want more open between themselves?
And I also believe it's elevated the conversations we've had,
whereas historically there might be conversations in my case,
they might be around profitability,
productivity,
you know,
those type of things which are very important conversations.
Now we're actually allowing people to talk about what has happened with my clientele.
Is there now asking me made How do we handle overwhelm though now stress destruction.
Now to me,
the answer to these things is obviously how you are managing your attention and the systems you put in place,
so I know that there are ways to help them.
But now what they're acknowledging at a very senior level is the impact of mental house stress,
Berna,
frustration.
And so,
in specimen E people,
depending on where you are listening to this in the world,
people also had the extra responsibility off home schooling and taking here of aged parents.
And they have patroness who love working on the front line,
and they might have immune deficiencies themselves.
So now employers have to look after the total human,
not just that salary number of someone who sits in a cute.
They have to really think about the human,
this behind it.
So it's not transactional,
it's intentional.
And,
you know,
I've always always advocated for intentional attention,
and that's something that I've loved about.
What's happened in the current situation is not every read at does this.
But some leaders have seen a number of employees rather than an individual human.
And I love the humanness.
Yeah,
I mean,
you say you say to listen with your eyes right?
Like you gotta help people listen with their eyes.
And how do you think that's gonna shift now that so many of these companies are gonna have that work from home set up available for people?
I don't think they're necessarily imposing on everyone,
but it's certainly going to be more of an option like it's gonna be an accepted option now for big companies.
Toe Have people work from home?
Should they choose to do that?
How is it going to be possible to listen with your eyes when you can't see your staff anymore when they're not in the office?
And that's one of the biggest concerns My see sweeter asking me on and if you have an old way of thinking and I don't way of thinking in my book is where the person needs to see the human in the cubicle.
At the computer,
there's an old way of thinking,
right,
and there are still people who think they have to see people.
That person might be sitting there playing games on the computer,
but if they see them,
they think they're being productive,
which is old thinking.
What I've been helping many of my leaders moved to us is a new way of thinking that is that we need to be focused on the output,
not just the visibility.
So if you want people Teoh,
if you want to be able to listen with your eyes,
you've got also have trust.
You've got to trust that whatever objectives you set for the apple,
it is what they're going to do.
They're gonna do it in a time that works for them,
not works for you because they all home schooling and taking care of age parents and handling partners and stress.
And so one thing that happened early in this Chris is,
you know,
is people have articles room blue mo zoom,
fatigue.
They runs through him 10 to 12 hours a day.
Myself included that because the problem is to him on the team is you're looking at the camera.
You can't look away because any little bored or distracted or not engaged,
and so people were literally exhausted cause they had to pay attention.
More eso.
When I started doing with some of my clients,
Waas,
I said,
Come And this happened to like the blessed two weeks,
I would send them a phone number and not a zoom link and they would you know me.
They like me in the siblings missing and I was like,
You know,
we could have fun Call me like on It's so good This relieved not to have to look into it.
So the listing with your eyes is important for intimate conversations,
serious topics,
those type of things.
But maybe we need to give people a break and say It's okay to turn off your camera.
One of my CFO is from manufacturing company.
He used to be very much about everyone.
Us have the cameras on.
Now he's like camera optional,
right,
because he's giving people permission.
So if if leaders want to be able to listen with their eyes more,
they have to trust the team,
they have to be more responsible for checking in on the mentally on how they well being is also impacting their deliverables.
And we also have to extend grace to each other more than we've ever done before.
We have to be more kind and gentle with ourselves,
and we have to be more kind and gentle with others.
Couldn't agree more with you on that.
We've we've seen,
you know,
We've had similar struggles to deal with,
obviously with the team over in the Philippines,
I think,
actually,
I think we're gonna look back on this couple of years now and say no.
We handled it very well,
like I've seen it up myself,
where it's being a number of people that are in the similar industry or they sent in the other,
and they know they're not handling it well at all.
They're not taking care of the people at all.
And here's the big things like and I've said this a number of times,
both Earth's who is obviously not only my wife,
but also my business partner.
I said to her 100 times like You know,
we need to be seen to be looking after our people.
Now I don't need to.
I don't need to force out her.
She's the one driving that as a fellow Filipino herself,
right?
But the fact of the matter is like we're so in sync with that,
and I think our team over there sees that as well,
and they love are even more than they usually would.
Do you know,
that's that's been a pretty right now how people are responding and taking care of the people is what we will talk about in years to come because you can't control economically what's happening.
You can't control environmentally what's happening.
But you can help what's happening emotionally.
And I feel like we need to create these safe environments for people.
And that means paying attention through being kind of being more focused on treating people as individuals within a team rather than just looking at the team.
And I think when you think about the whole idea of how people have pivoted,
yes.
So I had to create new products.
Absolutely.
Yes,
I did elevate my environment,
and what I realized to is that we also in the early days of the current situation,
people were in survival mode.
It was survival brain.
It was like,
How do I protect my health?
Have a protect my family?
You know,
those type of things.
It has taken longer than people anticipated at a global level.
And so now we're I think we're past this survival phase for the most part,
as employers or employees.
Now we're thinking about OK being that this is the way that my new structure is going to be potentially for the next 12 months.
What does that look like?
And so I believe we need to put no systems in place to be able to make sure we take care of ourselves.
Supposedly.
So when I say I did a personal of it,
I also elevated my house.
I really went hot into my personal fitness journey because now I'm not running between airports using hotel gyms,
you know,
doing sound checks at six am,
sleeping in unusual hotel rooms and eating food.
That's from an apple.
It Now I have control over those things.
And so I feel like we need to be responsible for how we personally contribute what we are going to say we're going to do every day from a productivity point of view and how we're gonna take care of now.
You and I see you work in the heck out on Instagram as well,
like you got.
I am man enough to admit everybody tuning in this lady here could she could pull up the crap out of me like you know,
a long time to be able to do a pull up.
I used much people do pull ups in the gym.
And I think that is the sexiest thing on the planet,
that you can actually lift your entire body weight.
And I sitting to myself and people can't tell this from like listening.
And I sound like I'm fine,
but at a zero you much closer and I'm little right until it's like how many people did it.
So I set up.
I set a goal in January that I wanted to do five pull ups by my 50th birthday,
and that was literally a goal.
And this is the person who could not move an inch like I would be hanging there like a daily hang onto the bullet like Chris.
This is like a I think,
and I wanted to be.
Oh,
so I needed to get five Phillips and 50 push ups,
you know,
like stopping.
Okay,
so but I see people do this,
but here's the thing.
It's not just something.
You wake up one day and go,
Oh,
yeah,
now I could go pull it bloody.
It is taking me a lot of work to do that right.
I think,
though,
is a really good lesson in that.
It's the incremental shifts we make.
If you hasn't on to connect as an employer,
it's those little tiny decisions you make every day to move towards something that make the impact.
Now doing a pull.
It may sound like nothing to people on this cold.
It's like it was a obscene focus of my own.
But it's incremental ships,
right?
And I think during this time in the current situation,
it's important to have goals,
because otherwise the days blur together and the days of the week and become the same.
We go on these emotional roller coasters within the same Allah,
not even just within the same day with feelings sad because we see something happy,
something happens.
And so we have a responsibility.
So I would encourage people set a goal of some kind that you know when things change,
you're going to be in a certain health situation or a certain financial situation.
What about do little things every day that contribute to that?
I literally worked on my pull up every single day what's worked because here's the news flash.
Everybody,
if your work hard on your goal with you,
achieve them right.
I'm curious to know also from a just like from a daily productivity perspective,
cause you're obviously well known for your productivity,
You know,
kind of just focus and helping people kind of get over stumbling blocks and plateaus and their productivity.
Already folding time was one of your books in regards that I can't remember the subtitle now,
but it was something,
like,
get twice as much thing.
I'll give you a copy of that so you can put that I love that.
Good.
See?
See what I mean does for you guys.
I didn't have to ask you for that.
So,
what have you been doing day to day like,
What does your day look like now?
And how are you staying?
Super productive,
you know,
working with everybody.
So I always used to daily tracking system that I created on my own and what I realized during this time,
Miss,
if I was going to elevate my personal pivot,
I needed to make sure the focus of my attention was hyper focused on all of the things I needed to a cheap.
So I had created the daily track out,
and then I started sharing it with clients.
Well,
wouldn't you know everyone loves it and happy to give you that you can put That s a pdf for people here to.
But what it does is it.
Make sure that I cover my business goals.
So at the top is's today.
I will and identify three things I must do to move my business boy.
And then it has options,
like not options.
It's check a box.
Did I meditate?
Did I work out?
Did I drink all my wooded?
I take my vitamins and then down the bottom of it,
it says,
Did you read something cold?
Someone send the love tonight post on social and promote someone.
So what I'm doing is holding myself accountable.
So every day I literally print this out because I love chicken boxes up.
I am a girl who likes to trust things up.
Take it looks and that gave me some satisfaction during the craziness and said,
That's how I stay productive.
I love this and it Actually it's quite interesting because for years I've always just used a post it note like I've always got posted autonomy,
but we just literally created my 123 to do list thing into like a little book marker thing and we get We gave it away toe or incubator members and they loved it.
And it's no,
it's nothing like supercar.
It's like one big thing to not so big things.
We literally call it that and then three little things and,
like that's what I do.
So I like to plan my next day at the end of my current dates.
Why will complete that now?
As like a little book Marcus sized piece of paper,
And we had a low print load printed and sent them out.
Everybody,
but they loved it.
And I was like,
This is no get like this is Here's the thing.
It's not gain changing,
but its game changing like it's the way this little thing that I've done for donkeys years on.
Now everybody else is doing it within the community.
I'm loving something.
Yes,
And so what this does is gives us a sense of satisfaction.
And so you have to say this in the past,
I believe systems create freedom,
So if you can create a system of what makes you feel satisfied each day,
it's going to give you momentum for the next day.
So there are days,
believe me,
where I might be on the Corona Coast on my friend Aaron pulls it like the emotional roller coaster that it is the common situation.
And then I look at this and go while you still haven't done these things.
So before the day ends,
you got to get it together.
Girlfriend.
And so what this is is just a system.
So whatever system works for you find a system that would allow you to feel like,
Okay,
I can do this.
And the reason I say systems create freedom is because they free up the valuable real estate in your brain to focus on moving your business forward to achieving your goals.
But if you if you don't have anyone to because the trip in,
as one of the challenges is it could be very lonely as you talk about.
But also too,
we only have accountability to our itself.
And this is just a system to help you be accountable to yourself.
Another accountability system I have is I haven't accountability partner by the name of tens and tens,
and I have been accountability partners for minimally.
Here's every Monday I sent her my goals,
and every Friday I sent her an update.
My goals up,
personal and professional.
Everything I commit to do that week and this level of email,
like sometimes there's a night Chris,
unlike scrambling like a lunatic to get stuff done because I told I do it.
And so I always believed that public accountability drives private accountability and so hasn't onto Panetta.
Things like the incubator and having another group of people that knew are accountable.
Attitude is really powerful.
So people listen and get yourself involved in the programs Chris is talking about because they will hides in your accountability.
Therefore,
that will heighten your profitability.
Yeah,
I believe I couldn't agree more with you.
And we actually had someone on the last Master Michael when we were doing our wrap up kind of everybody shares their winds and their biggest takeaways and their plans and stuff like that.
And somebody said,
You know,
the big thing for me was that I realized that I don't need any more content like I don't need to consume any more content.
All I need is this group toe.
Hold me accountable and to give me the support I need to continue to build my business on.
That was a major wake up call.
I think for pretty much everybody that was on that call myself included because,
you know,
I mean,
we're all consumers of content,
whether it's,
you know,
in a in a very kind of subconscious,
passive manner by scrolling through instagram or whether actually,
you know,
subscribe to newsletters and things like that,
like we actually,
really,
we honestly truly don't needs any more content.
We just need to focus on the people that we want to serve,
and I think that's a manager type.
I think,
too,
we pay for accountability,
right?
The reason I pay JJ,
who's my trainer and I train with her by face time and I It's the one expense.
I didn't let go during the current situation because I know I have to show up and no,
I have to work hard.
I know I'll get a really hard work at in with her one on one.
So I feel like when we pay for accountability through having a coach through having a train of whatever it is,
we're going to show up and sometimes we don't even want to show up for ourselves.
It's because we said we blew it and I couldn't go.
What videos on YouTube,
By the way I could go do arrived with her own palette on on demand.
But showing up for yourself by paying for accountability is one of the best investments you'll make,
and also to what I find really interesting is.
And obviously I coach people like you do as well is people that paying for the accountability because they told me they're going to do something they don't want to let me down,
even though they might want to let themselves down as the person they're being paid to be accountable to.
So it's a fascinating dynamic.
We have us humans and entrepreneurs.
We need that level of accountability because we have ideas until the cows come home.
Well,
yeah,
awesome Anno ideation.
We have fantastic ideas.
We don't always implement them,
and that's why things like your incubator.
That's why things like the You produce summit and all of these tools do you provide people.
It's a castle because you're giving them frameworks for implementation.
Actually,
really good indeed,
I've loved this conversation so much now,
You guys tuning in?
You were gonna meet mean in London this year on that stage at the Her Majesty's Convention Center.
Unfortunately,
the summits not going ahead,
as we all know,
But you can find out more about mean by checking around Mean James dot com Getting your books,
watching the videos,
doing all that fun stuff.
And we will bring hell you are coming in London for clarify that way.
Have a champagne data on a We're gonna make that so good.
Um thank you,
darling,
for spend time with me and the peeps today really appreciate it.
Your diamond and ah conflict were to give you that handshake,
a hug and a high five.
We're gonna do it all very soon.
It's been a privilege.
I can't wait.
We can answer way are OK,
you guys tune in.
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